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(月組)珠城りょう(クオン役)、朝美絢(カオ役)、暁千星(トゥアン役)

シャルルの生き方について

(朝美):カオとしては、やっぱりベトナムという国に対して命をかけているので、シャルルがマノンに対して命をかけて生きているので、そういう意味では共感できなくはないかなと…。生きている目的っていうのが、カオはベトナムであり、シャルルはマノンでありっていうハッキリしている物があるので、共感できなくはないかなって思うんですけど。

(暁):トゥアンも熱いので、そういう気持ちは共感できなくはないと思うんですけど、そういう立場にいないので…。身分とか…シャルルの場合は決められた人がいてって…そういうのが全くないので、難しいですね…

(珠城):じゃあ私言っていい?クオンは共感っていうとまたあれかもしれないんだけど、理解できない…一緒かもしれないんだけど…クオンは元々裕福だったから、育ってた環境が違ったとして、クオンがもしそういうひどい目に合っていなかったら、同じようにエリートでいってるわけ。フランス人の裕福な父親に育てられてるから。実際裕福ですごく裕福な生活をしていただけに、そういうエリートの貴族の称号を持っていてエリートな人間が愛なんかのために道を踏み外していいのか、お前本当にそれで…っていう想いと…そんなたかだが愛なんかのために今まで持っていた物を全部捨てられんのか、お前。っていう想いと、妬みが絶対あるから。自分と似たような人で自分はそういう事があって、今こうなってるけど、その敷かれたレールの上を順風満帆に生きてるシャルルっていう人物へのすごく妬みもあるから、すごく歪んで見てると思うんだけど、そういう意味では共感できるかできないかって言ったら、もちろんできないし、理解したくないっていうところがあると、その生き方を納得したくないところはすごくある。非現実的だからシャルルの生き方は。もっと現実見ろよじゃないけど。

(朝美):寄り添おうと思えば寄り添えますもんね。

(珠城):過去の自分を見てる訳じゃないけど、もし自分がこのまま生きてたらこうなってたんじゃないか…軍に入ったか入ってないかは別として。っていうのも多分あると思うんだよね。だから余計に苛立つんだと思う。だからすごく理解したくないの。

(朝美):ひねくれちゃってね〜

クオンがカオに殺されずに生きていたら…

(珠城):でも私絶対カオが殺さなかったとしてもめっちゃ恨みは買ってるから、絶対いつか殺されてると思うんだけど。もし殺されなかったとしても、幸せにはなってないよね絶対。自分はお金を手に入れて、これで良いってしてるけど、でもやっぱり愛国心のこととか何かあると異常に反応するわけじゃん、言葉に。っていう事はやっぱり心のどこかにポッカリ穴が開いてる訳で…。そこが満たされないからイライラしてるし、色んなものを自分のものに手に入れようとして、常に満たされてないわけ。だから、殺されちゃうかもしれないし、生きていたとしても幸せじゃないと思う。

(暁):でも最後にクオンに愛を知ってほしいです。

(珠城):何目線?!でも分からないよ、ひねくれてるけど、ありが言ったみたいにもしかしたらすごい人が現れて、クオンを更生してくれるかもしれないよね。

(朝美):年上の人が良いと思う。

(珠城):クオン絶対マザコンだと思う。母親の影を追ってるところがあって、それがあるから年上がいいと思う。で、クオンがどういう風になっても、多分離れていかない人じゃないと、多分クオンは更生できないと思う。

(朝美):そういう人が、もし生きてたら現れてるっていう…幸せな風に。

(珠城):クオンのハッピーエンドをアナザーストリーで…。

(朝美):でもインドシナにはいなそう。インドシナで出会ってずっとそこにいるというよりは、その人とどっかに行って暮らす…インドシナでは幸せになれないと思う。

(珠城):船で渡るしかない。ハロン湾渡って中国の…上海とか。

(暁):でもどうなんでしょうね、まず最初に捕まるかな、だってマノンが捕まってるじゃないですか。

(珠城):え〜じゃあハッピーエンドじゃなくなっちゃうじゃん。せっかく今良い方向に…逃げる逃げる。駆け落ちみたいな。逃げ切れそうだよね、頭良いもんね。

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今回演じた役にとって一番大切なものは何だと思うか

(暁):私は愛国心が一番大切かなって思うので。それだけが行動する源っていうかになってるので。私はあんまり家族が死んだとかそういう設定にはしてなくて。本当に国が大好きでっていうのを根本にしているので、そこです。

(朝美):愛国心もそうなんですけど、インドシナという土地、国。というものが一番カオ的には大事ですね。自分の命よりも何よりも…。ホマとか仲間と共に戦うのは、全てはインドシナのため。だから、自分が死んだとしてもその後にインドシナが独立してくれれば良いっていう。その土地のため。土地ですかね。

(珠城):私ちょっと色々考えたんだけど、やっぱり自分自身かな。自分自身を保つためにはお金が必要だから。クオンっていう人物を保つために金に執着してるっていう部分があると思うから。クオンは自分を絶対的な存在に置くために、お金が必要なんじゃないかなっていう風に思うから。もちろんお金が大事って作品では言ってるし、ほんとに金は大事なんだけど。でもそれは自分のため。だから自分が一番大事って思ってると思う。

(朝美):なんか今回目的がそれぞれハッキリしてるなと思って。人物の。だからすごく難しいんですけど、分かりやすいっていうか生き様っていうのがそれぞれにあるから、色んな人物を見ててすごく面白いなって。

(暁):みんなが何かを求めてる感じが。

(珠城):結構ハングリーだよね、出てくる役全部。それぞれ何かを求めてて、愛って何だろう?とか軍の仕事って、自分がやってきた職務って何だろう?とか結構色んな人が、色んなことに向かって問いかけてる感じがする、役自身がすごく。

残りの公演に対する意気込み

(暁):やっぱりどうしても毎日役をやっていく中で、自分の気持ちも停滞してしまったり、うまくいかない日があったりとか、やっぱり1つの公演で役をするのがあんまり今までなかったので、だんだん訳が分からなくなってきちゃうことがあるので、そういう時にまた初心に戻って作品の中でのどうやって存在するべきかっていうのを見返して、日々成長していけたらいいなと思います。

(朝美):東京の千秋楽の最後の日まで、インドシナの独立のためにじゃないですけど、そういう熱い心を常に忘れずに、日々やっていきたいなと思います。

(珠城):かなり自分の中では苦労したというか、壁にもぶち当たったし、よく分からず時間がたってしまったような気もするけれども、今の学年でこういう時期に、もがいて死ぬほど考えないと分かれないような役と出会えたっていうのは、良い経験にもなったし、良い勉強になったかなとも思うので、東京の最後の日まで自分の役を確立していきたいし、作品全体を通してやっぱり自分の役がどうあるべきかっていうのをちゃんと見てるお客様に分かるようにお芝居できたらいいなって思ってるから、千秋楽まで突き詰めてやっていきたいと思います。


…ありちゃんの素朴な着眼点面白いなあ…このコーナーちょっと不思議だけどなんか良かった…

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