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【新公トーク】(花)優波慧、矢吹世奈



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出演者

優波慧(ロベルト・ゴルジ役…本役:芹香斗亜)

矢吹世奈(ナポレオン・ボナパルト役…本役:柚香光)

Q宝塚大劇場新人公演を終えて…

(ゆーなみさん):私はとりあえず幕開き、もう水美さんが銀橋を渡っていらっしゃる時には、後ろでもうスタンバイしてたのでもう緊張しまくりで、とにかく舞台稽古を終えてやはりピンスポットが当たった時の眩しさとか、それが緊張につながってしまったんですけど、あれを利用して役としても優波慧としても舞台人としてパっとまず登場のシーンが一番、あのピンスポットを利用することが良いんじゃないかっていうことを色んな上級生の方から言って頂いて、それを意識してとにかく落ち着いてやろうというふうには思いましたが、今回通し役でずっと何場面も出てたので、基本的に役としての集中力は途切れなかったんですけど、でも本番を経験しての反省点はたくさんあるので、経験できたからこそと感謝してます。

(まさし君):お衣装を着て、鬘つけた人とお芝居をしてそれに小道具、セットとかもあり、それに助けられた部分もあり、そうでないところもあり。

やっぱりあの銀橋の歌の時のライトがもう、こんなに眩しいのかと、すごい銀橋から落ちちゃうんじゃないかなと思うぐらいで、私もそのライトをどういうふうに使ったらいいかとかいうのはまだまだやっぱり舞台に来て初めて気づいたことだったので、お衣装とかに助けられたこともありましたが、まだまだだなという感じなので、東京公演の舞台ではもう少し落ち着いてできたらいいなというふうに思っております。

Q役作りについて

(ゆーなみさん):お稽古場で初めて見た時に、すごい面白くてなんか柚香さんとはまた違う矢吹がやるナポレオンがすごく私は好きだっていう話を稽古場でもしたんだけど。

それを正解とせず色んなことをやってみてたよね。色々やったけど、その結果が本番につながったから逆に私は島の中のリーダーとしての部分とカルロとの友情を見せる部分とアリシアへの愛情を見せる部分と、その1人の人なんだけれども、色んな人によって色々な面を見せるというのがやっぱりちょっと難しいかなと。

その相手の方のお芝居によって私のお芝居もあってっていう心でお芝居をしながら、役として立っているというのが難しかったかなと思います。

(まさし君):全体像を見たときにナポレオンはどういうふうにいたらいいのかってなった時に、やっぱり1人異空間にいる、やっぱりロベルトさんとかは仲間とかがいるんですけど、ナポレオンは1人ででてきて1人でみんなを転がして…それを考えた時に、どういうふうに空気が読めてない感じで出てこようかとか色々考えてすごく勉強になったんですけれども。

型にはまらないようにお稽古場で色んなことしてみようと思って、やってました。

(ゆーなみさん):私たちはあまり関わりがなかったけれども、動乱の場面で水美さんのカルロと私と矢吹の3人の写真見たときになんかすごく感動しちゃって、ずーっと下級生時代から3学年続いてやってきたメンバーで、ピンスポット浴びて3人で舞台で踊ってるっていうお写真を見たときにグっとくるものがあり…

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Q水美舞斗との芝居

(ゆーなみさん):水美さんとそれぞれガッツリお芝居させて頂いたけれども、私はやっぱり今回自分が役の大きさとかにすごく悩んで、色々試行錯誤、色々私のロベルトを探りながら色んなお芝居をしたけれども、いつも水美さんは大きな懐で受け止めてくださって、今日はこうやってみよう、こうやってみようっていうのを話し合わなくても、お互いが感じて色んなお芝居をしてみることができたし、それを許してくださったのですごく勉強になりましたし、だからこそ自然に友情、カルロの前だからこそ見せれる表情というのが、1学年差の水美さんにしか見せられない私の素の部分みたいなのがお芝居とちょっと普段とリンクしてやりやすかったです、私的には。

(まさし君):さっきも話したようにナポレオン、色々やってみようキャンペーンを自分の中で繰り広げていく中で、単純に言い回しを変えてみたりとかっていう事もあったんですけど、今日はこういう感じでいってみようとか、先生のダメ出しやアドバイス頂いて、じゃあこうしてみようっていうのに、水美さんがドーンといてくださって私のお芝居によって水美さんも私も優波さんと同じで今日はこうしてみますとかの打ち合わせとか一切なしで、ちょっといきなりやってみようってやったら、やっぱり水美さんのお芝居も変わって。

きっと水美さんがいいお芝居されてる時には自分も「あ、これでいいのかな』って2人がうまくキャッチボールというか、お芝居の空間にいれてるのかなっていうふうに感じることができたし…

Q本役からのアドバイス

(ゆーなみさん):私は芹香さんからは、芹香さんのお役が5回目だったんですけれども、だからこそ本当に私の普段の性格であったりとか、お芝居・歌・ダンスの癖だったりとかも全て知ってらっしゃる上だったので、芹香さんは芹香さんのロベルトを石田先生の演出で石田先生と作っていったけれども、あなたは新人公演で優波がやりたいロベルトを田淵先生と相談して作っていけばいいということをすごく言ってくださったので、そのお言葉に甘えて色々自分の中でもロベルトを膨らませていったんですけども。

あの赤いお衣装、結構芹香さんは背が高いので着てらっしゃるだけでこうドーンと存在感があるんですけども、その存在感もただ大きいから出ている訳ではなくて、足もスタンスの広さであったりとか、細かいところまで色々教えていただきましたし、やはり本番を終えてロベルトを毎日演じられてる芹香さんだからこその色々細かいアドバイスもたくさん頂きましたし、東京に向けて色々クリアにしたいなと思います。

(まさし君):柚香さんからは、私も柚香さんのお役4回目なんですけれども、細かいこと気にしなくっていいから自由に、自分がやりたいようにやっていいよって言って頂いたので、私もこうお稽古場に柚香さんいらっしゃるんですけれども、自分で色々試行錯誤しながらやってて、ちょっと冗談を言う時と、すごい最後の『そこまでだー!』ってロベルトさんたちを止めて出てきて、ワーって長ゼリフを言う時とかはすごい結構キメてというか、かっこよく自分でもいきたいと思ってたんですけど、切り替えを今は仕事的な事務的なことなのか、ちょっとフザけていう時なのかっていうのを立ち方だったり、歩き方とかだったりで変えてみた方がいいんじゃないかとかっていうアドバイスを頂きましたね。

Q東京の新人公演に向けて…

(まさし君):最後のあの『いずれこの島も…』っていうあの最後の台詞がちょっと大劇場ではちょっと悔いが残って、自分の中でもあまり消化しきれずに…もうちょっとあそこでズドーンとナポレオンの歴史を動かしてるだけの大きい人物像っていうのをあそこで、どうやったら出せるかなっていうのを考えていって、てことはその前のお芝居とかもきっと変わってくるだろうなと思いますし、そのへんのバランスとかも考えて最後の台詞をどうおいしく持っていけるかっていうところと、あとはやっぱりナポレオンは実在した人物なので、もうちょっと掘り下げられる部分があると思うので、全体を通して大きくさらに大きく表現して、大きい風を吹かせられるように東京では頑張りたいと思います。

(ゆーなみさん):今回銀橋で初めて1人だけでソロを歌わせていただくのが、本番はとても緊張してしまったので、やはり1人きりで東京でしたら、2000人のお客様の空間を埋めるということがどれだけ大変なことかということを学びましたし、その銀橋の1曲の中で、やはりアリシアへの想いを大切に歌っていけたらなと思いますし、銀橋での歌い方、照明をうまく利用して目線とか立ち方とかで、あの1曲をしっかりロベルトとして何か印象づける歌になりたいなと思う事と、あとはやはりロベルトとして皆様に私のロベルト・ゴルジはこういう役だというのを何か1つ印象づけられるように大きくお芝居して、でも心を大切に頑張りたいと思います。


・・・なんか、まさし君とれい君のキャラ(細かいことは気にしない、直感的にキャッチするイメージ)って若干かぶるなと思ってたので、まさし君のナポレオンがはまってるの納得でした。ゆーなみさんは声質がいいですね!しっかりしてる!

 

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