出演者
橘幸(猪飼秋定)…本役:彩凪 翔
永久輝せあ(源太)…本役:望海風斗
叶ゆうり(細川慶勝)…本役:月城かなと
ちょび康(陽向春輝)…本役:彩風 咲奈
新人公演トークPart.1はこちら
江戸チームについて
(叶):それこそどっちって思って居とかないと、(本公演で)同じ場面に出てるので、しかも同じ対称の位置で入れ替わって出てる。でも全然気持ちの持ちようは、まず細川さんは1人違うんですよ。同じ九州の出身として、三日月藩のボロっちい親子が出てきたら『九州の恥だ!』って思うんです。みんな他の大名は『田舎臭い、ダサー』みたいな感じなんですけど、細川さんだけはすごい悔しいんです、それが。そういう心持ちからまず変えてっていう。江戸城の芝居は難しい。やればいいってもんじゃないから、基本姿勢のここから上で全部表現しなきゃいけないから難しいですよね。
(橘):初めて新人公演で7場とかで一緒にお芝居に入って、また秋定も別であの江戸城の中ではあまり位が高くないから、あまり大きく反応できないので、ただその場が和やかに終わってくれることを待ちながらただひたすらじっとしていて、あんまり大きく反応はできなかったんですけど、本公演に出てらっしゃる方、桜路さんだったりとかあきらだったりとかに、みんなアドバイスをもらって、ここでこういう反応をこういう動き方をしてっていうのを…でも難しい。座ってて動かせるのがほんとに手ぐらいしかなくて。
(叶):そうなんですよね。そこでいかに吉宗さんへの敬意とかを表現したりするかっていうのは、なかなか難しい。やり過ぎてもいけないし、やらな過ぎたら置物みたいになっちゃうしっていう。陽向とかも本公演で出てるけど…
(陽向):新人公演のを見て、『こういう動きもできるんだな』って。下の子でも見てて、『あ、すごいな!こういう表現の仕方もあるんだな』とか思って、本公演で私も真似しようって学べる。
(橘):新人公演でやると、また違う角度からその場面を見れたりするから、新しいことが発見できたり、そうやって生かそうって思うことも見つかったりとかして、吉宗のまから君も威厳が…こっち(後方)から圧がすごいから『あれ?』と思いながら。エエ声で。
(永久輝):本公演も新人公演も江戸には出たことがないので、ずっと見てるんですけど好きです。7場特に。その場面の中での起承転結みたいなのが面白くて。
(橘):すっごく早いよね。だから1個1個の台詞とか起こってることをちゃんと受けないとあっという間に終わってしまって。
(叶):怒濤の展開ですよね。田舎から来た案山子の親子とか言ってたような人が、御用取次様になっちゃうから、その展開がすごい激しいですよね。
(橘):でもなんか7場は本公演のを見学してて、セットとかお衣装とかがみんな裃じゃない?みんなあんなに下級生まで全員が裃着させて頂けることって本当に珍しいから、セットとお着物の華やかさと、みんな座ってる姿と、何とも言えないお江戸っていう、三日月のあの櫓しかない草むらからの…開いたら江戸!っていう感じがして。華やか!宝塚!って感じがあそこはすごくする。見ていて思うので。
(叶):この作品特にファンタジックな部分が髪型とかもあったりするんで、逆に想いっきり日本物っていう場面も面白いですよね。
(永久輝):違いが田舎と江戸とすごく違いがあるので、三日月藩の話、江戸の場面って挟まっていくのが、また面白いなって本公演見てて思いますし、やってて思いました。
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東京の新人公演に向けて一言
(陽向):設定として自分はちょび康7歳から始まって、一揆を起こして30歳で死ぬっていう、その7歳からほぼ自分の人生全てを舞台の上で演じることができるのが、本当に幸せなんですけども、彩風さんからは常にやっぱりちょび康は紀之介が大好きで、大好きだから一揆を起こす苦しさとか、でも息子を亡くして…みたいな気持ちの持って行き方がもっともっと東京に向けて、成長と共に気持ちの変化をもっとつけて、ちょび康として人生をもっと全力で生きたいなと思います。
(叶):月城さんは本当にずっと稽古場でも、ご自分もお忙しい中、すごく見てくださっていて、『こうした方がいいよ』とかたくさんアドバイスを頂いたんですけども、私の課題としてどうしてもここらへん(顔周り)、表情だけでやってしまうんですけども、日本物のあり方として、もっと腹で思ってここで、グって思うそれを行動に出していくっていうその段階っていうのを、もっと勉強していけたらいいねとおっしゃって頂いて、確かに私もそれは今まで芝居の課題としていたことなので、東京公演に向けてはここ(腹)で思うっていうことをお芝居のあり方をもっと勉強していけたらいいなと思います。
(永久輝):今ちょっとたわしも言っていたんですけど、人生が小さい頃から大人まで描かれているので、最初の子供時代と20歳ぐらいの青年時代と、その後は30ぐらいで子供がいて、三児の父なんですよ。そういう1人の男性が成長していく様とか、父になってからの存在感だったり男としての骨太さだったりをもうちょっと色濃く出せたらいいねと望海さんからも言って頂いたので、もちろんそういう面でもしっかりやりたいですし、あとはお稽古場で自分のことに精一杯になってしまっていたところがあるので、やはり晴興さんとの本当の底の底で繋がっている友情だったり、絆だったりとか、三日月藩のみんなとの愛とか思いやりとかその空気だったりっていうのをもっともっと伝えられたらいいなと思って、東京の新人公演は頑張りたいと思います。
(橘):私自身はあっという間の稽古期間で、すっごくたくさんのことを考えたなっていうのがまず宝塚の新人公演らしいとこだったんですけど、日本物としての所作だったりとかやはり首の角度、表情1つでも役だったり思っていることをやり過ぎないところで、どうやってこううまく表現できるかなっていうのを、東京に向けてはそこを考えていきたいなっていうのと、本役さん、彩凪さんからはこの癖とかでしゃべり口調とかだったりとか速さだったりとかが、癖で速くなってしまうとかがあるので、しっかり、はっきりと台詞をお伝えできることと、あとは晴興さんとの繋がりが、徐々に7年、10年経っていく中でずっと側でお仕えして見てきていて、晴興さんと三日月藩の人たちとの繋がりとかも徐々に知っていく中で、心苦しいところもあるんですけど、最終的に秋定自身は一番大切な友、晴興を失うことになるので、そこへの感情の持って行き方というか、それを後ろで立っているだけでも見ている方にお伝えできるように東京公演は頑張ってまいりたいと思います。
…雪組の組子たちがどんどん日本物の技を習得している…お芝居について熱く熱く語る姿がとっても素敵です。
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