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【キャトルdeトーク】(星)紅ゆずる・七海ひろき Part.1

      2015/09/16

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紅ゆずる、七海ひろき

(レポーター)天寿光希、妃白ゆあ

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ガイズ

(紅):今回は北翔海莉さん、妃海風さんのお披露目公演ということでですね、新生星組頑張っております。そして、やはりガイズのすごく公演をしていて私がすごい感じるのは、チームワークがすごくいいかなと思っているんですが。やっぱりみんなで全員でその空気感を作るというか、そういう場面がとても多いので、お互いのコミュニケーションとか空気感を作るということをとても大切だなと思いますので、その点に関しては新生星組まとまっているのではないかと思っておりますが、どうですかね?

(七海):そうですね〜。大劇場はみんなでやるのは初めての…

(紅):そうなんです、組替えされてきたので。…今紹介?

(七海):初めて星組さんが全員でのお稽古場から、やっぱり違いを色々感じつつも、さゆみさんが言ってたみんなの集団の勢いみたいなのがすごくあって、お芝居も一番最初からみんなこうやろう、ああやろうみたいのをすごく感じて、勢いがすごいなと思いまして、下級生にいたるまで。舞台に行ってからも日々ほんとに一緒にやってる子たちが、最初のお稽古場では動きもできなかったギャンブラーの下級生の子たちが、だんだん舞台に上がって色んなことをしだして、かけてくれるのがすごく楽しくてですね、それを毎日色んな発見があって楽しいなと思っております。

(紅):やっぱりね、お稽古場だとね、我々上級生とか先生方とかすごく近くで見てるんですよ。なので、下級生の子たちは緊張しちゃうんですよね。なんですけど、やっぱり舞台をやってる下級生の姿を見ると、やっぱりこの子達は宝塚大好きで舞台大好きで入ってきたんだなっていうことがすごく思うので、嬉しいな〜ってなんかすごく思います。

お2人(紅&七海)は舞台上も絡む役柄ですが…

(紅):楽しい。楽しいね。キャッチミーからずっと一緒なので、なんだかとても落ち着くんですよ。すごい落ち着いて。なんかいいよね?出番前とかもなんかちょっとホンワカしてるよね。もちろんいい感じの緊張感は持ち合わせてるし、全然遊んでるとかいうわけではないんですよ。ちゃんとその役に入りやすい、すんなりと入れるという環境が作れやすいなって私は思ってるんですけど、どうですか?そういうと、そうですねとしか言いようがない感じです…

(七海):私キャッチミーからさゆみさんと芝居をさせて頂いておりますけども、色んな方と芝居をしてきましたが、ほんとに不思議な感覚が舞台上でありまして、ほんとの今回で言うと電話BOXの場面とか他のクラップ・シューティングの場面で一緒にやらせて頂いていて、ほんとにその世界観に連れてってくださるというか、今思って台詞を言ってるんだなっていうのがすごく分かるので、それがすごくすんなり自分の中でいい感じに流れてきて、そして今こうやって思って、やろうとなさってるのがすごく分かるので、私はもっとこうしてみようかな、ああしてみようかなっていうのをその時また舞台の上で感じながらやれるなと思っています

(紅):ほんとですか、ありがとうございます。

アドリブについて

(紅):全然考えてない。こうやろうとかも考えてない。だし、しかも突然みっちゃんさんが突然投げかけてこられるんですよ。突然です、あれいきなりです。あれ、いきなりなので、それにボンって返したいというなんというかこのアドリブ根性というかそういうものが芽生えはします。でも、最初からこう言うからねとかは別にないし、私自身もこうやろうというんじゃなくて、その場の空気と相手との間とかでこういうふうにしようとか、自然の流れの中でネイサン・デトロイトという役1本通して考えて動くという感じなので、別に実は計算はございません。もちろん見せ方とかの計算はね、もちろん台本に書かれた通りのものの計算はもちろん必要ですけど、そこから生まれてくるお客様の笑いの間であったり、こちら側・演者側の発するものであったりの間などなどはやっぱり自然な産物といいましょうか、その時にしかできないライブ感というか。それがすごく詰まった公演なんじゃないかなと思います。

(七海):私もみちこさんとのアドリブされてるのは、絶対お2人で話し合いが行われていると…

(紅):1回もやったことない、1回もやったことない。私が言った後にはけた後に『やるな』みたいな感じでおっしゃってくださるので、やー、すいません、ありがとうございます。みたいな感じでやっております。

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宝塚ファン時代、キャトルレーヴについて

(紅):言っていい?私な、観劇とかもチケットとか何も持ってないのに、キャトルレーヴは出入り自由やん。でもその1歩先には劇場があるやん。こうやってくっつけて聞いたりしてたけど、全然聞こえへんやん。よくできてんねん、聞こえへんようにできてんねん。とか、あとは宝塚のものに溢れているという空間がキャトルレーヴが一番じゃないですか、宝塚駅降りました。そこから宝塚という文字が見えるだけで嬉しいわけですよ、コチラ側としては。それにどんどん近づいていってこの空間。もう住もうかなって思ったもん。めっちゃ大好き。

(七海):私キャトルレーヴという存在を、ファン時代知らなかったんです。劇場に来たんですけど、観るのだけでいっぱいいっぱいになっちゃって、こういうお店が…

(紅):でもいきなり最初は知らんかった。何回も来てから気づいた。

(七海):全然知らなくって、だから多分知らないままファン時代終わったのかっていうぐらい知らなくって、何しに来てたんだろうって思うんですけど、観に来て満足して、だからこういうグッズとか商品とかがあるって知らなくって、お写真とかも。何年かたってから知って、買い始めたっていうぐらい、いつも劇場に来ただけで満足してて。

(紅):そうだよね、休憩中ウロウロしないと分からないよね。

(七海):初めて入った時はだから私はこの何ヶ月間なんて無駄なことをしてたんだ…休憩中いかにここを利用すればよかったってすごく思いました。

(紅):あとキャトル入る時にさ、チケットを確認する回数。これがないと何も観れないぞってもう何回も観るし、お姉さんに私は観てます、観てる人ですからってなアピールをして入るっていう。

キャトルレーヴにこんな商品あったらいいなと思うもの

(紅):あります。私はですね、歌舞伎ってイヤホン音声ガイドみたいなのがあるんですよ。古典歌舞伎とかになると何言ってるのか分からなくて、こういうこと言っていますとか、この羽織はこういう意味です。とかそういうガイドしてくれるものがあるんですよ。なんかそれを貸し出して、この人は○○さんで、例えば今特別出演されてる専科の○○さんですとか、花道から出て来られたこの方はこういう人です。とか言って、衣装はこういう意味がありますね、とか衣装もすっごくオペラであげないとさ、柄とか分からなかったりすることがあるので、この柄はこういうところにこういう柄をこだわっていますとか、例えばデザイナーさんは○○さんでとかそういう情報を盛り込むことによって、初めて宝塚を観た人でも、よく宝塚を初めてご覧になる方は、みんな同じに見えるっていう。でもすっごくよく分かってくると全然顔も違うのにっていうふうなことがあるので。なおかつ、しかも、開演前と休憩中とかっていうのは主演の方とかが実はこういうところに苦労してました皆さんどうぞ楽しんでくださいみたいなガイド付きの音声が流れるんですよ。だから、そういうのを貸し出しすればよくない?

(天寿):絶対借りたいですよね。

(紅):宝塚のことをめっちゃ知ってる人でもなんか、そういう意味があったのか!とか全部何もかも舞台のこととか、これは板付きです。板付きとは?みたいなのとかさ、暗転。暗転とは?とか転換とか専門用語とされるものを言う事によって宝塚をより身近に感じて頂いて、なおかつより宝塚のことをもっと知りたいって思うきっかけになるのではないかなって思うんですけど。

(天寿):是非実行して頂きたいですね。

(紅):貸し出しだから持って帰れないから。だからそんな高いものじゃないしさ、より宝塚を知って頂く絶好のものじゃないかなって思ったりもするんですけど。高度な商品だね。

(七海):私そんな高度な商品全然考えなかったけどいいですか?私がちょっと下級生に調査をしたところ、言ってたのがパックあるじゃないですか、顔の。顔のパックのタカラジェンヌバージョンがあったらいいねって話を下級生がすごいしてて、確かにと思って。歌舞伎の方もいるし、猫もいるし、犬もいるし、色々あるじゃないですか。だからタカラジェンヌ、どの方の顔かはあれですけど。

(紅):オスカルパックとかでしょ?あれでよくない、ブラックジャックとかね。

(天寿):ブラックジャック…目開かないけどいいですか?

(紅):そこだけピってなってる。

(七海):それとあと言ってたのが、ピってスイカとかのICカードに貼るステッカーが欲しいって言ってて、確かに通勤通学とかしてる時に一瞬見えるじゃないですか、あれ確かにいいと思うんですよね。

(紅):そういうの幸せだよね、一瞬言える宝塚のそういうの好き。

(七海):だし、そういうのを例えば会社とかで、あって出した時に『あなた宝塚好きなの?』って話も広がったらいいんじゃないかなって。

(紅):いいね。そっちの方が現実化されそうじゃない?

(七海):あったら楽しいかなと思って。

(紅):すごい日本物パックとかで、若衆パックとかさ、宝塚と歌舞伎の若衆はまた違うからさ、若衆パックで髪の毛もついてるぞみたいなやつとかさ、いいんじゃないの?

…Part.2につづく

…紅さんの宝塚を愛する心、そしてアイディア力に感動。キャトルはいるだけでテンション上がりますね!!!

 - 毎日のタカニュラインナップと感想メモ , , ,

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