Part.1はこちら
出演者
エジプト代表 ファラオ役 箙かおる
エジプト代表 ネセル役 寿つかさ
エチオピア代表 アモナスロ役 一樹千尋
エチオピア代表 ファトマ役 美風舞良
アモナスロ様の鳩ちゃん
(寿):アモナスロ様が常に可愛がってらっしゃるあの鳩ちゃんなんですけど、ご自分で本当に手作りで本物に見えるタオルで作ってらっしゃる…
(一樹):鳩ちゃん。
(寿):タオルじゃないですね?
(一樹):鳩ちゃん。鳩ちゃんのお家もあったりとかね〜
(箙):お家の中に色んなものが入ってるんだよね。
(一樹):しーしーしー
(美風):おやつが…
(一樹):鳩ちゃんのおやつが入ってる。
(箙):でもね、ずっと気づかれへんと思うけど、お稽古場でここ乗せててずっと撫でてたよ〜
(一樹):無意識。ほんま?いやいやいや。ほ〜ビックリです、無意識です。
でも『王家に捧ぐ歌』もう1回出させて頂くと聞いた時に、皆さんおっしゃるのが『鳩ちゃん!』って言ってくださるから、アモナスロよりも鳩ちゃんの方が有名なようで。
(美風):鳩ちゃんが飛び立つ音とかすごいですよね。あ、そんな飛べたんだって思って。
(一樹):あの時のために…
(箙):ちょうどしーんってなった時にバタバタバタバタってね。飛ばすんだよね、エチオピア。1人きりじゃない?今エチオピアで。
(一樹):(両手の人差し指を合わせて)ツツツツ…そうそう娘にまでもあなた呼ばわりされ…しょうがないよ、でもね。あんなことになっちゃったからね。
(箙):でもすごいアイディアですよね、先生の。あれは出てくるんですか?オペラのアイーダでは。
ファラオの降臨
(一樹):鳩は出てきません。ファラオのあれだって意外なところからね、すごいじゃないですか。
(箙):初演の時は袖からぴょぴょぴょぴょっと出て来てたんですけど、それがどうもやってる途中から違和感があって、自分が。
上から降りられへんのかなって思ってたの12年前に。それでそれ忘れてて、今度先生『また乗る?』とか言うから、『全然大丈夫ですよ、先生あのさ〜前思ってたんですけど…』って言ったら『いいの?』って。
『全然。その方がイメージじゃないですか?』って。
(寿):初演もご覧になって、今回もご覧になった方が横から出てくるものとばっかり思っていたら、すごく衝撃だったって。
(箙):なんとなくイメージ的に横から出てくるのもあれやねんけど、それよりもやっぱ上から降りて来た方がいいんじゃないかなって思って。で、なんか聞いたら普通幕が閉まってる時に上がって、幕開いたら降りてくるっていうのが多いんだけど、幕なしやから、それで凱旋の時はもう上にいるんですけど、『それでもいいか?』って言わはるから、『全然。』って。
(一樹):でも上で幕があったりしてさ、真っ暗なとこにずっと居るわけでしょ?
(箙):真っ暗で、こういう鉄管がガーって。でちょっと揺れたり。
(一同):いや〜
(箙):でも全然平気!だって自分がどこにいるかと思わなければ。
(一樹):あんな高さでさ、歌ったり芝居したりしたら、全然堂々としてさ全然動じないんだもんね。
(箙):揺れないようにとは思うので、やっぱり身体を揺らしたりしたら揺れるかな〜と思って、それだけは気をつけてるんですけど、わりあいとね気持ちいい。
ファラオのお椅子
(美風):座ってる椅子も結構注目しているんですよ。ここに2体の…
(箙):あれね、前、描き物やったらしいねんけど3Dになったって言ってたよね。ちょっと手を置いたりするのにいいんだよ。
2つ持ってますねん。もう1つはちょっと背が高いやつ。あそこが落ち着くねん。だから後ろで早くにいって座ってる。
(一樹):私たちは床だよね。ほとんど床だよ。ずっと這いつくばってます。
(美風):なんかもうグレーっていうイメージしかないです。床。
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お互い人の歌を使いたくなる…
(箙):でもアフリカのあの歌すごい好きです。イメージできる。歌がみんな良いから。
(寿):ついついエチオピアの歌口ずさんじゃいますね。
(美風):私たちはついついエジプトの歌…
(寿):どれが好きです?
(美風):やっぱりツヨツヨとかよく使ってしまいますね。なにかの時に。
(箙):光ってやがるとか。あれは使ったりするよ。
(美風):人の歌使いたくなりますよね。
それぞれの役から今回のラダメスとアイーダの愛は許せますか?
(箙):私は知らんと思う。言おうとした時に殺されちゃうから。多分知らんと思うねん。
(美風):でもファラオ様的にもし知ったとしたら許せますか?
(箙):どうやろ〜アムネリスちゃんがさ、いなきゃさ、別にいいかもしれへんけど、アムネリスがすごい好きでっていうのは聞いてるから、もう夜な夜な聞いてるからお父様は。
アムネリスがいなかったら分からへんけど、きっと娘の幸せを選ぶと思うんで、殺しはせんかもしれへんけど、やっぱりなんとかしてあげたいと思うかも。殺す事はなくっても。
多分何にも知らないうちに死んでると思うんで。別に病気でもないから。急に息子さんがやって、息子も初めて会うからさ。
(一樹):でも一応奴隷で囚われの身になった時にご挨拶ぐらいはしたと思うんだけどね。
(箙):でも見てるかな?ファラオ。どうですか?許せます?
(一樹):アモナスロは嫌なのよ、ほんとは。エジプトの人なんて。だけど今あの状況になってエチオピアが助かるためにはエジプトの彼から情報を得ないといけない。
そう思えばまあ、なんとかしなさいっていう形でやった訳なんだけど、結局彼女の愛も引き裂くことになってしまう。
それで自分たちのエチオピアがうまくいったかというと決してうまくはいかなかった。
そこで自分も愛をなくしてしまったことを初めて知り、『ああ愛をなくしゃいけないんだ』っていうことを死んだ後に、あの世に行ってからウバルドたちと一緒に『いかんかったね』と反省している。
だからラダメスとアイーダの愛認めてあげたいね〜清らかな愛はね認めてあげたかったなって死んだ後に思う。
(美風):じゃあ生きてる時点ではブーですか?
(箙):あの状況だからね〜
(一樹):エジプトだもの〜
(箙):贅沢できるよ〜
(一樹):いいの!エチオピアは農産物で生きていくの!
(美風):今日それを身体で表して来たんです、農産物で。
(一樹):こんなキンキラじゃないの。
(寿):キンキラ、キンキラ。
(美風):金属は食べれないんですよ〜
(箙):へーん!許せます〜?神官的には。
(寿):神官的には愛人だったらいいと思うんですよね…
(一樹):ほら出た〜!
(寿):だけど!いけませんね、国としては。やっぱりアムネリスと結婚してますます繁栄していってどんどん領地を広げて全てエジプトの制覇っていう。
(一樹):まだやるか…
(美風):影の支配者ですね…
(箙):そうそうそう、番頭さんやねん。
(一樹):ファラオ倒して神官がっていうことあるもんね。気をつけてね!
(箙):もう死んでんねん。ファトマ的には?
(美風):ファトマ的にはもう断然アリです。やはりそこはもうどんなことがあっても応援したい。女性としては一番近くにいてアイーダの心の気持ちとかも一番分かっているので、ファトマ的には多分色んなこともあるんだけども最終的には許してあげると思います。
(一樹):どこかで手はずを整えてあげるっていうタイプね。
(美風):どこかでうまく会えるようにとか。で自分も自害するタイプだと思う。
(寿):そして誰もいなくなった…最終的に。
(美風):アムネリスさんは最終的に結婚できると思います?
(箙):あのままちゃう?1人身ちゃう?
(一樹):いや、神官が…
(寿):多分うまくやろうと思っても、アムネリスちゃん手強いような気がしますね、彼女は。
…Part.2も専科コンビが軽快に飛ばします。あおいちゃんの質問が的確!ヒロさんの鳩、チャルさんの降臨エピソードは貴重ですね。
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