Part.2のテーマは『相手役へのLOVE』
出演者
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Q初めて組んだのは？
（ちえちゃん）：『ブエノスアイレスの風』？
（ねねちゃん）：懐かしいですね。
Q第一印象はどんな感じでしたか？
（ちえちゃん）：第一印象は、でも『ブエノスアイレスの風』で知った訳ではないから、第一印象はその前にあってね。
（ねねちゃん）：『赤と黒』ですかね？
（ちえちゃん）：『赤と黒』で星組に入ってきたから、その時からなんかこう面白いなと思って。
（ねねちゃん）：どうしてですかー！
ちえちゃんの振り起し能力の素晴らしさ･･･
（ちえちゃん）：『ブエノスアイレスの風』で初めて組んで、東京公演で振り起こしで、東京でも振りを見て頂くのに自分たちで振りを起こさなきゃいけなくて、いきなり組んだこともないのにいきなり振り起こししてな…
でも振り起こしとかちゃんとやってくんのよね。
（ねねちゃん）：…やれないですよ…
（ちえちゃん）：でもなんか既にちょっとやってたやん。
（ねねちゃん）：や、だってちえさんめっちゃ早いんですよ、振り起こし。『SCARLET PIMPARNEL』の東京公演のお稽古中から集合が始まって。帝劇の上のお稽古場で。その時に振付けの先生がいらっしゃるから、ちょっと踊ってみせるみたいな感じだったから、『その時には完璧にしなきゃいけないけど、ああどうしよう！』ってなって、とりあえずノートに全部カウント書いて小さいDVDで見ながら全部書いて振り起こししてたの。
（ちえちゃん）：そんな感じした！『じゃ、お願いします』って言われてやったら『！？振り起こししたん！？』みたいになって…すごいよね。
（ねねちゃん）：いやいやいや…だってちえさんと踊らせていただくってなって、もうヒーってなって。
（ちえちゃん）：いっつも振り起こしとか前もってやんねんな。
（ねねちゃん）：や、だってもうご迷惑おかけできないと思って。
（ちえちゃん）：いっつも月組に出る時とかも、振り起こしとか色々と前もってやってたらすごいぞみたいなやつ、いっつも私があんまりできてなくて。
（ねねちゃん）：いや、本当にすごいんです。１回こうやって見て『あ、これで』みたいな感じだから。それじゃ私はついていけないから、もうこれですよ（メモを書く仕草）
（ちえちゃん）：でも２人ともが分からんかったらあんまり進まないのを、結構分かってるからそこにハマれば、『あ、起こせた』みたいな。
（ねねちゃん）：本当にかっこいいんですよ。（見る仕草）『オッケー』みたいな。
（みっきー）：ちえさんは１回見たら、もう覚えて、『どんな鋭い動体視力を持ってんや』くらいすごいですよね。やっぱり脳に…
（ちえちゃん）：私宝塚で一番嫌いなことはビデオ起こしやねん。私ほんまに劇団に言いたいくらい。まあ、言いましたけどね。これ言いましたから大丈夫ですよ。言ったんですけど、やっぱり全国ツアーとかそういうものって、ビデオ起こしってやつがあるんですよ。あれって、みんなも嫌いやと思うけど、私も最も宝塚の人生の中で１番嫌いなんことなんや…だからいっつもどいちゃんにご飯奢るからビデオ起こししてって言うもん。
（ねねちゃん）：でもそんなことないです。あんな難しいタンゴ見て、私一緒に見てたそこで『あ、はい』みたいな感じだから。
（ちえちゃん）：でもほんまに切羽詰まって、ほんまに今しないと明日見てもらうみたいになると、急に覚えられるようになるねん。すっごい嫌いだから、できればしたくないねんけど、どうしてもしなあかんくなったら、もう一発で覚えたろ！って思うわけ。でも全然タンゴとか覚えられん…何回もしたよ、私。何回もしてもらってん。けど、ちょっとした振りは『あ、こうかこうか。あ、OKOK。』ってなるけどな。
Qお２人のタンゴは激しい…
（ちえちゃん）：あれすごかったよな。あれビデオ起こしでさ、あれこうどうやって飛ばすんやろみたいな。
（みっきー）：どうやってされたんですか？ビデオ起こしで。
（ちえちゃん）：本当にタンゴのビデオ起こしって最も組んでるからさ、もうちんぷんかんぷんでさ。でも頑張ったよう。しかもダンス教えなあかん人だったからね。
（ねねちゃん）：もう芝居のお稽古してる思い出ないですもん。常にどっかに消えて…
（ちえちゃん）：そうや休憩もな、踊ってたな。
（ねねちゃん）：それこそ稽古場で（大の字ポーズ）『もうやだ！』ってなって。その隣でしずくが『ME AND MY GIRL』のタップのお稽古を黙々とやる。お教室がなくて２人で半分シェアしてたんですけど。２人でできないよね…って言いながら。
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Q相手役に対して男役として娘役として気をつけていることは？
ちえちゃん→ねねちゃん
（ちえちゃん）：男役側でいっつも思うから、時々娘役の気持ちになってみたりする。
（みっきー）：ちえさん、よくそれされてますよね。
（ちえちゃん）：なんかさー、だって男役はさ、思う事は大体きっと一緒やん、娘役に対して。こうしてくれたらいいのに…とか思うけど、きっと向こうも色々思うんだろうって思うやん。
だからさ、娘役側に立ってみるのよね、自分がもしも相手の役でどうされたら嬉しいんかな〜？とかはちょっと考えてみますよ。
（みっきー）：それはお芝居の解釈的なことで？
（ちえちゃん）：解釈的なことも、仕草的なことも、なんとなく良かれと思ってこっち側はやってても、いざ本当に自分がやられる事を考えたら、そう思えないんじゃないかとか思うから、娘役ねね側にたって、役とか考えたりする。
（みっきー）：ちえさんがやってくださる娘役はすごく可愛いですよ。
（ちえさん）：娘役やる？そんなに。
（ゆあちゃん）：『REONⅡ』の時にも…
（ちえちゃん）：あ、そうやな。
（ゆあちゃん）：もうガン見でした。穴が開くほど…
（ちえちゃん）：それレディーレオンの話？
（ゆあちゃん）：柚美さんが『絶対見ときなさい！』って言ってくださって、私たちも…
（みっきー）：見せ方が素晴らしいから…
（ちえちゃん）：それは…なんともね…
（みっきー）：お芝居もよく台詞をね、娘役バージョンでちえさんが演じてくださるじゃないですか。色んな役をやってくださるんですよ。理屈的なことじゃなくて実演してくださるからすごく…すいませんいっぱいしゃべっちゃって…分かりやすいし、なるほど！って。
（ちえちゃん）：男役も女子が考える男だから、なんか色々と浮かんでくるやん？みたいに、女子が考える男役が女子はどうなのかな？っていうのを一応考えた方がいいんじゃないかなと思って。とかはする。
あとは長年組んでるからマンネリ化しないようにすごく心がけてます。夢咲ねねっていう子と組むのがすごく当たり前にならないように。
（みっきー）：ゾクゾクしました、今。
（ちえちゃん）：ゾクゾクする！？マンネリ化はいけないわよね。だから憧れの目で見てもらうのが当たり前ではないというところを、気をつけてやっているつもり。
ねねちゃん→ちえちゃん
（ねねちゃん）：私はでも、似てるかなと思ったのは、ちえさんだったらどう踊るのかな？とかショーの時はよくそれを頭の中で、ちえさんがこの踊りをするときはどういう身体のポーズを取るかなとか。それこそよく実演してくださる『ここはもっとこうして！』みたいな。
（ちえちゃん）：よく男役させられてる。ちょっと私ねね役やってみるからって。
（ねねちゃん）：やっぱりその時の身体のラインとかすごくお綺麗なので、だからそれを６年間の蓄積により応用編じゃないですけど、この踊りはどう踊られるかなとかすごく考えてます。
（ゆあちゃん）：ショーの時とかにねねさんが男役の方を引き連れて、真ん中で踊ってらっしゃる時とか、革のパンツスタイルの時とかに、すごく素敵で先生方とかも『ねねの音の取り方が』とかおっしゃってた時にめっちゃかっこいいって思う。
（ねねちゃん）：ちえさんが踊られるとしたらっていっつも思っています。
（みっきー）：実際そうやって実演してくださるってなかなかできないですよね？
（ちえちゃん）：自分も下級生時代に口で色々言われてもちっとも分からないんだからね、私たち下級生は。だから実演してくださる方はやっぱりすごくなるほどって思った訳よ。
こうしてもいいし、ああしてもいいんやでっていうのをやってくれると、このチビっこたちはやりたい気持ちはあるけど、どうしたらいいか分からない人たちだから、こうしてもいいし、ああしてもいいしっていう例をいっぱいやってみせると、その中で好きなのをキャッチできたわけよ、自分も。
だからなるべくそれをする。でもそれってすごいこっち側も恥ずかしいしね。恥ずかしいし合ってるかも分からないけど、提案ってことで。だから下級生にもするんやで。
（みっきー）：私ちえさんの自主稽古大好きだったんです。キュンキュンしながら、でも盗まなきゃと思って見てて。でも自分がやろうと思ったらなかなかできないので、本当にありがとうございました。
（ゆあちゃん）：今回のタンゴのプロローグとかも全カップルちえさんたちが見てくださって、もう本当に幸せでした…
Qお互いへの想いや魅力について
（ちえちゃん）：長い間本当に苦楽を共にしてきたからね、いきなり5/10で終わると思うとなんか驚きやね。
夫婦とか色々言いますが、そうですね夫婦なのかしら、何かの目的に向かって本当にお互いが切磋琢磨しつつ戦いながら、でもフォローし合いながらみたいな感じだから、なんか5/11からそれぞれの道を歩くなんて〜♩てのあの歌を聞きながら、そうやな〜って思ってる感じ。
（ねねちゃん）：もうちえさんの目がすごい全部物語るのを誰よりも近くで…
（ちえちゃん）：私もほんまにねねって目を見るだけで色々分かるもん。
（ねねちゃん）：私も分かります。
（ちえちゃん）：だから本当に目の玉１つでこんな感じって分かるよね。だから本当に素直な人だから、色々日々楽しかったかな。なんかちょっとしたアドバイス１つで劇的に変わるから、だからすっごく言葉選びも難しかったし、でもなんとなく長年組んでるから、これを言ったらこう変わるっていうのが分かってきて。
劇的に変わった時は感動っていうか。あ、やっぱりこっちに変わった！みたいな。
Qお２人にとっての相手役とは？
（ちえちゃん）：私はね、なんか他の人の舞台とかも気になることいっぱいあるけど、ねねの舞台とかはもう自分みたいに気になったじゃないですか。
だから他の出演者も気になる子がいたらめっちゃ言いますけど、ねねの事は自分へのチェック並みにねねのチェックはしていくから、なんか自分の中にねねっていうものがいたみたいな６年間だったように思います。
（ねねちゃん）：私にとって相手役さんは（涙）
（ちえちゃん）：泣ーくねーよしよし
（しばしブレイク？）
（ねねちゃん）：わたしにとって相手役は柚希礼音さんしかいないです。で、また泣くんですよね…本当に全てでした。以上。
（みっきー）：お２人の姿をずっと見て育ってきた私たちなので、もっともっと聞きたいお話たくさんありますが、Part.3でお楽しみに！
…Part.3へつづく
･･･ねねちゃん号泣･･･ちえちゃんの『自分の中にねねがいたみたいな６年間だったように思う』という一言、すっごく深くて感動しました･･･
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